Cal, Stanford and SMU to the ACC

[NewEnglander]

I think the Pac12 will implode and the Big12 will fill out it's conference with Arizona, Arizona State and Utah. Much better geographically and better football brands and Utah and Arizona aren't too shabby in basketball either.

[le]

I think the Pac12 will implode and the Big12 will fill out it's conference with Arizona, Arizona State and Utah. Much better geographically and better football brands and Utah and Arizona aren't too shabby in basketball either.

I agree NE, if Zona and Utah bolt to the Big12 then the PAC10 will implode. It appears though the B12 Commish favors UConn if Colorado is the only PAC10 member joining the B12.

The Athletic: If Colorado is the only Pac-12 member coming in, don’t be surprised if Yormark goes all-in on UConn. All the political capital he’s gaining in the eyes of his league presidents, chancellors and ADs from pulling off this Colorado move? Conference sources believe that’s where he wants to spend.

But Yormark sees an entry point into New York City. He sees a dominant basketball conference and big-time events at Madison Square Garden. He sees a future in which the Big 12 makes more money down the road by decoupling its media rights package and selling its basketball rights separately. Conference sources say he sees a sort of buy-low opportunity here, a bet that the Big 12 investing in UConn over the rest of the decade will drive up the conference’s value. For him, there’s no hesitation. There’s real conviction.

Here is a great quote from former UConn AD Lew Perkins who was largely responsible for elevating the school from the dregs of the Yankee Conference (VT, Maine , UNH, URI) to national prominence. "Think, act, be big time – that’s Lew Perkins’ legacy at UConn." If only other small Catholic schools shared the same philosophy back in the late 70's!!! SBU, SJU, SHU, PC, and NOVA committed resources and made it happen!

https://www.courant.com/2023/07/20/dom- ... -at-uconn/

[le]

I dunno, first the portal and NIL deals and now the possible extinction of the PAC10 due to conference realignment. The "bigs" are getting bigger and the non power smaller leagues are diminishing in stature. Even the PAC10 (12) is not immune from destruction.

In arguably the most historic day of conference realignment, Oregon and Washington finalized a move to join the Big Ten in 2024.And later on Friday night, Arizona, Arizona State and Utah announced they were officially jumping to the Big 12, joining Colorado in a Pac-12 exodus. It leaves a conference that was formed in 1915 with just four teams and on the verge of extinction.

USA Today quote : Look around. The Pac-12 is in hospice. The ACC is running a fever, and college football is barreling toward something that’ll be far different from its past, which a lot of people have enjoyed an awful lot. What wasn't broken is getting tinkered with anyway. Conference realignment is beginning to spiral out of control, and I hate everything about it. I hate that the self-interest and greed of a few are on the verge of damaging something so many have loved deeply for so long. I hate that the reason for the damage is television revenue. Never mind the tradition and regional rivalries, those silly little things that happen to make college football so special. Each day — heck, each hour — it's getting worse, a panic of dominos as schools rush to find chairs before the music stops. College football might be the only sport in which a large percentage of its most devoted fans would rather see a hated rival lose than their own school win.

If you kill rivalries, you kill the essence of college football, what made it so popular and lucrative in the first place. What's worse than angry fans? Apathetic fans. Fewer teams and games of interest that matter sooner or later will bring about steep declines in attendance and, yes, television revenue. There’s a knife to this golden goose’s throat. He’s dying so the Big 12, Big Ten and SEC can thrive.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/s ... rida-state

[le]

The PAC 10/12 is officially dead with the latest defections to the ACC. I would assume the two remaining members (Wash State & Oregon State) will be merged with the Mountain West members in some format. I'm not sure what becomes of the three indy's in college football: Umass, UConn and Army. AAC ? ND is a member of the ACC in all sports cept football.

AAC 2024 teams: Charlotte, East Carolina, FAU, Memphis, Navy, North Texas, Rice, Temple, Tulane, Tulsa, UAB, USF, UTSA.

https://www.espn.com/college-sports/sto ... rd-cal-smu

https://www.espn.com/college-football/s ... acker-2023

[jhart]

College sports as we have known them for the past fifty years are in demise; All about the almighty $
Let's see in time what they reap they sow!

[le]

My question is if Oregon State and Washington State join the Mountain West, or all of the Mtn West schools merge with "PAC 2", will this hybrid league still maintain Power 5 designation in terms of the CFP playoffs ?

https://www.denverpost.com/2023/09/02/m ... 0in%202024